Expert Witness Nikita Mirzani Interprets the Phrase 'Shut Up with Money' as Business Negotiation

Kapanlagi.com - One of the most crucial phrases in the alleged extortion case involving Nikita Mirzani was finally dissected in the courtroom. The phrase "people, if they want to be silenced, what do they use? They use money," spoken by Nikita's assistant, Mail, became the center of debate between the Public Prosecutor (JPU) and language expert witness, Frans Asisi.

In the trial at the South Jakarta District Court on Thursday (25/9/2025), the JPU attempted to steer the opinion that the phrase was a form of extortion. However, Frans Asisi firmly rejected this and provided a different analysis.

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1. Negotiation Process

According to Frans, when viewed from the overall context of the conversation, the sentence is more accurately interpreted as part of a business negotiation process, not as a threat or coercion.

2. Negotiation Content

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He explained that in the negotiation, Reza Gladys wanted Nikita to stop 'speaking up' about her product. The Mail party then offered a solution.

3. Offering Statement

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"Yes, that is an offering statement. So, earlier in the context of two people negotiating. The negotiation is, 'If you want to avoid speaking up, then the negotiation is money.' This is business. Business interests. This is the meaning of negotiation," said Frans Asisi in the courtroom.

4. Prosecutor's Critique

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Frans also criticized the way the public prosecutor tried to conclude that if there was no payment, then Nikita would 'speak up'. According to him, that conclusion is not present in the text of the conversation, and a linguist should only analyze what is written.

5. Frans's Assertion

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"Then we conclude, we, I and you conclude, that if the money is not closed, she will talk. That is our conclusion. It is not in those words. A linguist only speaks about the words that exist, not conclusions," asserted Frans.

6. Bargaining

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He reiterated that the entire series of conversations from November 13 to 15 indicates a bargaining process initiated by Reza Gladys.

7. No Coercion

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"The discussions from the 13th, 14th, and 15th were about negotiations. There was no coercion, none of that. In fact, the negotiations were supplemented with, uh what do you call it? assumptions. That's true. But those assumptions were used for negotiations," he concluded.

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